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Mouseslayer · Apr 04, 2010, 09:51 AM // 09:51

I'm not sure if im posting this in the right spot.... but ill put it here anyway. (also not sure if anyone had the idea before me, sorry)

Basically my idea is to have a /zrank style emote for PVE players. Something that says what it is instantly. (like if you have beaten all of DOA on that character, something along the lines of Mallyx popping out and doing something, or the forgemaster breaking down as an emote for Sorrows furnace.)

It also would have to go along with certain titles, like a sunspear one for sunspear, lightbringer for lightbringer, ebon for ebon and so on. Probably max title only emote, and usually something that goes along with their statue in the HOM.

Zrank is pvp only, there is no way to get it unless you dive into that mess of rage quitting and insults. More changes seem to be happening in PVE now then PVP, and the last new thing for PVP (that i know of, not a pvper here) was codex to stop the gimmick builds that plagued PVP. So why not give PVEers the same type of things that are given to PVPers?

Most of the figures that would be shown are already in game, they are in HOM, and they could just pop up and be shown for a few seconds like zrank, and then go away. Like i only got rank 10 in sunspear the last double point weekend, and it would be cool to do /sunspear or /ss or something along those lines, and have the max title, and get an emote of the HOM Monument for rank 10 sunspear.

I also know that some things are to easy to get in PVE, like beating the 3 games, so they shouldnt have an emote. Same with other things that seem to be too easy, or that one or more title counts towards the same thing. Like canthan, tyrian, and elonian protectors shouldnt have one, same with their guardian counterparts, mainly because most bonus/masters in NM and HM are easy to get with an experienced-ish team from a PVE guild or alliance. But having all 6 titles is something noteworthy, so that should have its own emote. Same with Skill hunter, any person can get all of elona's and cantha's elite skills just by wiki and H/H usually. But prophecies is the hard one. So legendary skill hunter would have its own emote, but not the three titles making it up.

It just doesnt seem fair that if you make a trip to GTOB for the Zaishen missions and bounties, PVPers can use the /zrank and PVEers cant.

(And yes i know, it is possible to be both a PVPer and a PVEer. But in most cases people either are only one or the other, or occasionally dabble in the one they arent based in. This idea is basically for people who only PVE and grind to get the titles there. Just like Zrank is for people who grind to get that title. Also the fact that it would have to wait for max rank, or at least a not easy to get to rank, would mean its worth it to show that you got it. And yes i know thats what the thing under your name in game is for, but who actually stands around reading those? When you /zrank everyone knows what rank your at just by what shows up. If you go /sunspear everyone will know your rank 10 because of that, and thats MY idea. (or it could just be People Know Me Title only, but its easy to get rank 1 there by maxing the 5 easiest PVE only titles, 3 protectors, 2 skill hunters, hence every title thats hard to get to being apart of my idea. Not just GWAMM or People Know Me title track.))

upier · Apr 04, 2010, 10:10 AM // 10:10

Tigger for PvE. (And by tigger I mean tiger! I do not care for your ponies or your flying fairies.)
I do not care for anything else.

Lycan Nibbler · Apr 04, 2010, 10:41 AM // 10:41

ALL pve titles are easy, just because someone went on a UWSC once doesnt mean they should have an emote for it. Everyone would have emotes, making them pointless anyway apart from making Spamadan a bigger clusterf**k than it already is.

Oh and when you quote the "easiest" pve titles, then you are mistaken. Its much easier and quicker to max SS and LB than the protectors and skill hunters (unless you have a few hundred k for elite tomes - but then youd need balt to unlock them anyway!

Oh and this

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It just doesnt seem fair that if you make a trip to GTOB for the Zaishen missions and bounties, PVPers can use the /zrank and PVEers cant.

is a big waaaa - seriously. Go to the Russian district then when you visit if it hurts you that much.

/ notsigned x 1000

upier · Apr 04, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by Lycan Nibbler

ALL pve titles are easy, just because someone went on a UWSC once doesnt mean they should have an emote for it. Everyone would have emotes, making them pointless anyway apart from making Spamadan a bigger clusterf**k than it already is.

Pretty much the only reason why emotes for PvP make sense is because they offer something really pretty and shiny and the only way to obtain them is to participate in a game mode that can only exist if people participate.

The problem that we now see is that PvE used to have that shiny and pretty component that forced people to play it, but lost it with the introduction of PvP vanity items, which means that PvE actually has nothing to offer to this game anymore.
That combined with the fact that the players have clearly spoken that some of us just do not care for PvP, pretty much regardless of the rewards you offer, that might be reason enough to reconsider the use of emotes in GW.

jimme · Apr 04, 2010, 11:29 AM // 11:29

I guess for the KOABD title an emote would be in place, but definatly not for (elite) areas because of speed clears.

Then again, it will never happen.

Xsiriss · Apr 04, 2010, 12:12 PM // 12:12

Yay more grind...no thanks. Grind shoudl be discouraged, not given more incentive.

fires element · Apr 04, 2010, 12:27 PM // 12:27

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Originally Posted by Xsiriss

Yay more grind...no thanks. Grind shoudl be discouraged, not given more incentive.

no one is making you max the titles. if you don't want to grind then don't and you won't get whatever emote. its the same as the pvp emotes. all it will take is time to get them and if you don't want to spend the time then you don't get those emotes either

X CDH X · Apr 04, 2010, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Not signed... Why the hell you want emotes for everything. Zrank isnt really even a respected title as you can buy a large amount of zaishen keys.

Giving an emote for

"It just doesnt seem fair that if you make a trip to GTOB for the Zaishen missions and bounties, PVPers can use the /zrank and PVEers cant."

QQ QQ QQ QQ And whining cos you want a emote for sunspear title LOL....

Don't be lazy, do some HA and get the emote there.

The only PvE title that would realistically be plausible to have an emote would be GWAMM. This would be a good thing as would encorage people to finish their titles in advance to GW2 when it comes out in....2020

Amaurosis · Apr 04, 2010, 01:40 PM // 13:40

I don't understand you basically want an emote so people can see how much A.I. you farm and grind? Hero rank began just as means to allow your group to know your experience in HA, but now it's become nothing more than an emote to flaunt everywhere you go, which is why so many people rushed to HA to farm it. Zaishen rank was implemented to allow other pvp'ers to obtain an emote by using zaishen keys with the large amount of balthazar faction they accumulated. Yet so many people just camped in GToB buying keys, so you can't claim that its a PvP title considering the amount of people in GToB trying to buy keys. You PvE and because of it your PvE only skills become stronger and stronger, some skills have even been buffed. That's your reward, just as emote were supposed to be rewards for competing in pvp, your stronger skills vs. A.I. is yours

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Originally Posted by Mouseslayer

It just doesnt seem fair that if you make a trip to GTOB for the Zaishen missions and bounties, PVPers can use the /zrank and PVEers cant.

Doesn't seem fair? That PvPer's are using an emote they earned by spending their balth/TRP from competing in PvP. You should pay a trip to GTOB sometime and see the people buying keys, which probably isn't as bad compared to when the title first came out.

Oleg · Apr 04, 2010, 02:05 PM // 14:05

It'd be nice if just one of these threads could be made without a PvWhatever is better than PvOther debate floundering around. His point is fairly simple, he'd like emotes for PvE. He doesn't like PvP so he feels he is denied an emote.

To my mind the argument isn't if PvE is worthy of an emote, but whether PvE is being denied anything. Looking at the flip side, what are PvPers being denied that PvEers get? Depending on what titles unlock in GW2, PvPers being denied GWAMM could be a fairly major one.

It seems pretty reasonable to me that it should be possible to get an emote in PvE, and a GWAMM equivalent in PvP.

I'd say the only title in PvE deserving of an emote is GWAMM (as there isn't a single title in PvE that is comparable to a PvP one. That said, maxing 30 titles is a lot harder than getting to an emote rank in PvP). I would hope that any legendary Hero would get at least the same thing unlocked as a PvE GWAMM.

Personaly I couldn't care less about emotes. The /zrank is as ludicrous as the process of getting it (I don't see anything impressive about emoting a cupboard full of weapons). If you just want to show off your title, it appears under your name. Is an emote really neccessary?

Why don't gladiators get an emote? They get diddly.

FoxBat · Apr 04, 2010, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Zrank is pvp only, there is no way to get it unless you dive into that mess of rage quitting and insults.

Where do you think I am getting the 5k per Zkey I earn?

Zrank IS a PvE title. /unsigned

Shayne Hawke · Apr 04, 2010, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Where do you think I am getting the 5k per Zkey I earn?

Zrank IS a PvE title.

Pretty much this. The OP doesn't seem to understand how much of a market there is in the trading of Z-keys and how easy it is to level up the title when you've got access to large sums of cash.

Discussion on the Zaishen title is nothing new to Sardelac, and the suggestion of giving other titles their own emote has also been discussed and is documented on the Index.

Closed.